Is the debate about who should pay on the first date still ongoing?

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Some people say it's a matter of tradition. Others say it's a matter of thoughtfulness, gender roles, masculinity, etc, whatever! I don't just think the man should pay on the first date; I think he should foot the bill on every date.

Of course it can be argued that because "independent women" can afford to pay for the meal, they should or that they may earn more than the man so they should share the cost. It can also be argued that if the woman likes the man enough, she should have no issues sharing the cost.

However, when people make such arguments, they are totally missing the point.

Everyone wants to be with somebody who enhances their overall well-being. Simply dating a woman enhances a man's well-being - he has already gotten his return on investment. But simply dating a man does not enhance the well-being of an "independent woman". Hey, that's why she's called an "independent woman".

A man has got to bring more to the table (and bed) than just his reasons for why she should share the cost!

10 comments:

David said...

Yu-Kym,

I agree that males must move beyond tradtion.

If a women wants to introduce a male to something unique or new, and pays the bill for such an event, the male should expect to fund all dates.

Independence has nothing to do with this.

Again you are correct stating, "Everyone wants to be with somebody who enhances their overall well-being. Simply dating a woman enhances a man's well-being - he has already gotten his return on investment."

Males have to man up and learn how to treat a women.

David

Anonymous said...

Absolutely must not pay for her on the first date because she can turn out to be the wrong kind of 'ass' hole or the wrong hole.

When she pass the test drive, then she can be rewarded.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree.

It is wrong to claim "Simply dating a woman enhances a man's well-being - he has already gotten his return on investment"

It may well drain the man emotionally when she turns out to be the worst bitch one can ever imagine.

David said...

Anon,

It works both ways. The women puts more at risk. Some males are complete jerks and expect the women to engage in more than just a date.

Even if the male does not expect sex, many guys are rude and crude and just do not know how to properly treat a women.

Anyone who has an IQ greater than a rock realizes a female is more at risk of a poor first date outcome. Whether it is forced sex, being stuck with a bill or just being left for another female, the women does enhance the male. Rarely does it work the other way.

David


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Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, so the right thing to do is each person pay their own. That is the ony fair thing to do!

Anonymous said...

I agree that it is wrong to claim "Simply dating a woman enhances a man's well-being - he has already gotten his return on investment"

Perhaps the host of this web site is implying the release of the man's body fluid "enhances a man's well-being".

But you may not realise the amount of energy and sweat needed to make the girl to cum! She may well have the responsiveness of a rubber duck.

So perhaps the lady should pay the man very well for every organism achieved.

David said...

Anon,

Your concept of fairness and what a women wants is very narrow sighted.

You have a laser like focus on sexual intimacy and little else.

I suggest you contact an escort service.

David

Anonymous said...

Hello Yu-kym,

This is an insightful post.Can you state the ways dating a woman would enhance a male's overall well being and the definition of an independent female?

David said...

27 Nov. Anon, you must be new to Yu-Kym's blog.

Her archives will answer are your questions regarding how a women, and a man enhance the relationship or a date. Yu-Kym has many posts on independent and not so independent women.

Have fun!

David

Anonymous said...

Independent woman means she can pay, then of course she should pay.

You don't want to risk your money of she is a bitch.